Comments on: Employee Poaching http://brainsonfire.com/blog/2008/06/09/employee-poaching/ Fascinating, Inspiring, Rewarding and Engaging kinded spirits. Wed, 03 Dec 2008 07:10:08 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Poaching Passive Job Seekers with a Business Card http://brainsonfire.com/blog/2008/06/09/employee-poaching/#comment-173052 Poaching Passive Job Seekers with a Business Card Mon, 16 Jun 2008 11:35:59 +0000 http://brainsonfire.com/blog/2008/06/09/employee-poaching/#comment-173052 [...] to Brains on Fire for sharing [...] [...] to Brains on Fire for sharing [...]

]]> By: BIG Kahuna http://brainsonfire.com/blog/2008/06/09/employee-poaching/#comment-172860 BIG Kahuna Sat, 14 Jun 2008 14:37:23 +0000 http://brainsonfire.com/blog/2008/06/09/employee-poaching/#comment-172860 Hi Mariscia, Good question. When someone got their degree is not a factor for me, just that they have 10 plus years in their specific field. I avoid losing empoloyees this way as well as getting seasoned professionals. Sure I may miss out on an up and coming allstar but they are very hard to find and keep. Once again keeping great employees is critical to me. The only time I want to lose an employee is to retirement and I'm happy to say that won't be for a while. Hi Mariscia,

Good question. When someone got their degree is not a factor for me, just that they have 10 plus years in their specific field. I avoid losing empoloyees this way as well as getting seasoned professionals. Sure I may miss out on an up and coming allstar but they are very hard to find and keep.

Once again keeping great employees is critical to me. The only time I want to lose an employee is to retirement and I’m happy to say that won’t be for a while.

]]> By: mariscia http://brainsonfire.com/blog/2008/06/09/employee-poaching/#comment-172801 mariscia Fri, 13 Jun 2008 23:50:20 +0000 http://brainsonfire.com/blog/2008/06/09/employee-poaching/#comment-172801 I used to work in call center and the $1,000 Zappos will pay reps to leave is more than most would make in a month. I used to work in call center and the $1,000 Zappos will pay reps to leave is more than most would make in a month.

]]> By: mariscia http://brainsonfire.com/blog/2008/06/09/employee-poaching/#comment-172800 mariscia Fri, 13 Jun 2008 23:49:01 +0000 http://brainsonfire.com/blog/2008/06/09/employee-poaching/#comment-172800 Seems that Apple is just looking for people to work in their retail stores what about the people who want to work in the Apple corporate office? This is a question for Big Kahuna...... By the way, could you tell me the companies that want to hire a person who has 15 years work experience (various industries) and a brand new Master degree in Advertising/Creative Brand Management? It seems that everyone wants an employee with experience but no one is interested in hiring a new graduate. And you wonder why employees job hop? Seems that Apple is just looking for people to work in their retail stores what about the people who want to work in the Apple corporate office?

This is a question for Big Kahuna……

By the way, could you tell me the companies that want to hire a person who has 15 years work experience (various industries) and a brand new Master degree in Advertising/Creative Brand Management? It seems that everyone wants an employee with experience but no one is interested in hiring a new graduate. And you wonder why employees job hop?

]]> By: Brand Logician http://brainsonfire.com/blog/2008/06/09/employee-poaching/#comment-172657 Brand Logician Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:33:11 +0000 http://brainsonfire.com/blog/2008/06/09/employee-poaching/#comment-172657 Like Zappos, I think this is great—for no other reason than it makes everyone have to get better. Like Zappos, I think this is great—for no other reason than it makes everyone have to get better.

]]> By: Emily http://brainsonfire.com/blog/2008/06/09/employee-poaching/#comment-172544 Emily Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:12:36 +0000 http://brainsonfire.com/blog/2008/06/09/employee-poaching/#comment-172544 I have to chime in because just yesterday I announced my resignation after working for my organization for 5 years (which is a long time considering I'm in my 20s and this was my first job out of college). Today I got a lecture on loyalty from my boss because she wanted me to give 4 weeks notice rather than 2 weeks. When I started thinking about the things that would have made me more loyal, the first thing that came to mind is that she never once asked if I was happy with my position. Simply taking the time to have a reflective moment with employees can fend off poaching attempts. If I had felt that the organization was trying to keep me, I might have stayed...or at least been "loyal" enough to give more notice. I have to chime in because just yesterday I announced my resignation after working for my organization for 5 years (which is a long time considering I’m in my 20s and this was my first job out of college). Today I got a lecture on loyalty from my boss because she wanted me to give 4 weeks notice rather than 2 weeks.

When I started thinking about the things that would have made me more loyal, the first thing that came to mind is that she never once asked if I was happy with my position.

Simply taking the time to have a reflective moment with employees can fend off poaching attempts. If I had felt that the organization was trying to keep me, I might have stayed…or at least been “loyal” enough to give more notice.

]]> By: Pat http://brainsonfire.com/blog/2008/06/09/employee-poaching/#comment-172513 Pat Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:54:17 +0000 http://brainsonfire.com/blog/2008/06/09/employee-poaching/#comment-172513 I too prefer 'engagement' vs 'loyalty'. The challenge for a manager is to keep their talent. Because of technology, companies are starting to create virtual working environments...which can work for disciplined professionals. Most companies still work within a brick/mortar environment. If a manager wants to keep their employees longer, they need to provide a strong working environment. Basics: competitive pay, benefits, work challenges, training, comfortable physical environment and a 'respectful' workplace. A manager that knows how to listen as well as lead probably knows how to engage their team. Pat I too prefer ‘engagement’ vs ‘loyalty’. The challenge for a manager is to keep their talent.

Because of technology, companies are starting to create virtual working environments…which can work for disciplined professionals. Most companies still work within a brick/mortar environment.

If a manager wants to keep their employees longer, they need to provide a strong working environment. Basics: competitive pay, benefits, work challenges, training, comfortable physical environment and a ‘respectful’ workplace.

A manager that knows how to listen as well as lead probably knows how to engage their team.

Pat

]]> By: Whit http://brainsonfire.com/blog/2008/06/09/employee-poaching/#comment-172481 Whit Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:45:10 +0000 http://brainsonfire.com/blog/2008/06/09/employee-poaching/#comment-172481 I think it comes down the simple, human nature associated with everyone's need to 'wanted'. Good employees who do their job well are hard to find. Ones that bring something extra to the table, superb customer service in Apple's case, are even more difficult to find and therfore harder to hold onto. It is true that my generation (the mid to late 20s) and younger have been more apt to change jobs more often but if you continue to supply an environment that is challenging while making sure your employees feel as 'wanted' as when you hired them - they'll be more apt to stay. Not only that, they'll tell everyone that asks them what they do about your company and why it is great. I see branding and WOM starting at the ground floor - hire good employees and show them why they should care about what they do, everyone is a sales person. I think it comes down the simple, human nature associated with everyone’s need to ‘wanted’. Good employees who do their job well are hard to find. Ones that bring something extra to the table, superb customer service in Apple’s case, are even more difficult to find and therfore harder to hold onto. It is true that my generation (the mid to late 20s) and younger have been more apt to change jobs more often but if you continue to supply an environment that is challenging while making sure your employees feel as ‘wanted’ as when you hired them - they’ll be more apt to stay. Not only that, they’ll tell everyone that asks them what they do about your company and why it is great. I see branding and WOM starting at the ground floor - hire good employees and show them why they should care about what they do, everyone is a sales person.

]]> By: BIG Kahuna http://brainsonfire.com/blog/2008/06/09/employee-poaching/#comment-172336 BIG Kahuna Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:38:19 +0000 http://brainsonfire.com/blog/2008/06/09/employee-poaching/#comment-172336 I love the Zappos $1000 bribe. They instantly get rid of any possible nay sayers. The trick is just to be different in offering benefits to the employees while still living your own brand. I love the Zappos $1000 bribe. They instantly get rid of any possible nay sayers. The trick is just to be different in offering benefits to the employees while still living your own brand.

]]> By: kamran http://brainsonfire.com/blog/2008/06/09/employee-poaching/#comment-172219 kamran Tue, 10 Jun 2008 02:41:12 +0000 http://brainsonfire.com/blog/2008/06/09/employee-poaching/#comment-172219 I am not sure which is the more genius plan- Apple's blatant poaching, or Zappos' call center process at the end of the first week- offering them a ' $1000 walk away now if you are unhappy' option. For the call center employees, that could be several weeks pay, and surprisingly enough, a significant number of them do take the money and run. There is something to be learned by both models- hire people you like, and give them a chance to walk away early enough if they don't like you in return. I once heard the advice of never hire someone you would not want to drive across the country with. Yep, I see that as being sound, too. akp I am not sure which is the more genius plan- Apple’s blatant poaching, or Zappos’ call center process at the end of the first week- offering them a ‘ $1000 walk away now if you are unhappy’ option.
For the call center employees, that could be several weeks pay, and surprisingly enough, a significant number of them do take the money and run. There is something to be learned by both models- hire people you like, and give them a chance to walk away early enough if they don’t like you in return.
I once heard the advice of never hire someone you would not want to drive across the country with. Yep, I see that as being sound, too.
akp

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