Comments on: Denver’s Creatives Unite http://brainsonfire.com/blog/2007/08/31/denver%e2%80%99s-creatives-unite/ Fascinating, Inspiring, Rewarding and Engaging kinded spirits. Fri, 21 Nov 2008 22:36:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Exactly what it says http://brainsonfire.com/blog/2007/08/31/denver%e2%80%99s-creatives-unite/#comment-149122 Exactly what it says Wed, 19 Dec 2007 23:32:54 +0000 http://brainsonfire.com/blog/denver%e2%80%99s-creatives-unite/#comment-149122 just what it says...egotists. they had an awards show but never invited half of the top but less known agencies. Elitist really. Depends on what your style is just what it says…egotists. they had an awards show but never invited half of the top but less known agencies. Elitist really. Depends on what your style is

]]> By: Jeff http://brainsonfire.com/blog/2007/08/31/denver%e2%80%99s-creatives-unite/#comment-114878 Jeff Wed, 05 Sep 2007 14:26:44 +0000 http://brainsonfire.com/blog/denver%e2%80%99s-creatives-unite/#comment-114878 I do agree with Jono regarding the "hiring local talent." Certainly if the best talen is local, hire it. This however can be very limiting as part of a manifesto. We work with a lot of Chambers and Associations. They love to say, "we only do business with members." It kills me. While I agree with the sentiment I think it is a negative approach to gaining new insight and difficult to have as a policy or part of a manifesto. I do agree with Jono regarding the “hiring local talent.” Certainly if the best talen is local, hire it. This however can be very limiting as part of a manifesto. We work with a lot of Chambers and Associations. They love to say, “we only do business with members.” It kills me. While I agree with the sentiment I think it is a negative approach to gaining new insight and difficult to have as a policy or part of a manifesto.

]]> By: Jono Fisher - Photographer http://brainsonfire.com/blog/2007/08/31/denver%e2%80%99s-creatives-unite/#comment-112175 Jono Fisher - Photographer Fri, 31 Aug 2007 21:45:16 +0000 http://brainsonfire.com/blog/denver%e2%80%99s-creatives-unite/#comment-112175 A good post indeed and thank you for pointing us to The Denver Egotist, which is VERY cool – a breath of fresh air! Except however, for the part: "..by hiring and promoting local talent". Ok, so what if your local talent sucks? Hiring and promoting talent locally sounds like a safe solution and a droll concept to me (apart from the incest of it all). I have ranted about this before: http://www.jonofisher.com/blog/?p=12 Obviously this is not the case for Denver as they already have a wealth of great talent there. But what about the cities that don't have any good talent locally? I would say that 30% of the travel and tourism work that I shoot is for (Visitor and/or Convention) bureaus and hospitality companies that do not have photographers locally to shoot the campaigns in the way it was intended by the creatives and marketing professionals. So they hire "a foreigner” or “out of town shooter”. I would argue that to exclusively promote local talent that may or may not suck, and not to seek out the very best creative talent for the job, may smack of tradition and complacency. "..by challenging each other, and by holding each other accountable for our work..." That’s the bit I really like. I believe this is the way forward to leaving corporate stagnation and inertia far, far behind. (Makes me want to move to Denver). A good post indeed and thank you for pointing us to The Denver Egotist, which is VERY cool – a breath of fresh air!

Except however, for the part: “..by hiring and promoting local talent”.

Ok, so what if your local talent sucks? Hiring and promoting talent locally sounds like a safe solution and a droll concept to me (apart from the incest of it all). I have ranted about this before:
http://www.jonofisher.com/blog/?p=12

Obviously this is not the case for Denver as they already have a wealth of great talent there. But what about the cities that don’t have any good talent locally? I would say that 30% of the travel and tourism work that I shoot is for (Visitor and/or Convention) bureaus and hospitality companies that do not have photographers locally to shoot the campaigns in the way it was intended by the creatives and marketing professionals. So they hire “a foreigner” or “out of town shooter”.

I would argue that to exclusively promote local talent that may or may not suck, and not to seek out the very best creative talent for the job, may smack of tradition and complacency.

“..by challenging each other, and by holding each other accountable for our work…” That’s the bit I really like. I believe this is the way forward to leaving corporate stagnation and inertia far, far behind. (Makes me want to move to Denver).

]]> By: The Denver Egotist http://brainsonfire.com/blog/2007/08/31/denver%e2%80%99s-creatives-unite/#comment-112154 The Denver Egotist Fri, 31 Aug 2007 21:00:37 +0000 http://brainsonfire.com/blog/denver%e2%80%99s-creatives-unite/#comment-112154 Thanks for sharing us with the world, Spike. Here's to filling our city (and every other) with work we love. Thanks for sharing us with the world, Spike. Here’s to filling our city (and every other) with work we love.

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